Comments on: Find Happiness 9: How to Detach Yourself from Your Thoughts http://calmandcool.com/216/find-happiness-9.htm A Guide to Being Peaceful Tue, 01 May 2012 02:19:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Kristina http://calmandcool.com/216/find-happiness-9.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1461 Kristina Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:27:34 +0000 http://calmandcool.com/216/find-happiness-9.htm#comment-1461 Thank you Lucky Balaraman. I get your point. We'll see where this leads... I'll definitely come back should there be anything I'd want to ask. Thanks for the support, again. Thank you Lucky Balaraman.

I get your point. We’ll see where this leads…
I’ll definitely come back should there be anything I’d want to ask. Thanks for the support, again.

]]> By: Lucky Balaraman http://calmandcool.com/216/find-happiness-9.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1437 Lucky Balaraman Sun, 04 Mar 2012 14:47:22 +0000 http://calmandcool.com/216/find-happiness-9.htm#comment-1437 Whichever of the above phenomena it is, Kristina, your job is just to be a silent, still witness. May I also suggest sitting still for 10 minutes a day, during which time you should detach yourself from all thoughts and sensory inputs, and just be, be, BE... in other words, withdraw into the 'basic you', which is your 'sense of being'. I appreciate the effort you are taking to attain inner peace. PLEASE ask me if you have further questions, I will lead you to the treasure just like my great teacher led me. Whichever of the above phenomena it is, Kristina, your job is just to be a silent, still witness. May I also suggest sitting still for 10 minutes a day, during which time you should detach yourself from all thoughts and sensory inputs, and just be, be, BE… in other words, withdraw into the ‘basic you’, which is your ‘sense of being’.

I appreciate the effort you are taking to attain inner peace. PLEASE ask me if you have further questions, I will lead you to the treasure just like my great teacher led me.

]]> By: Lucky Balaraman http://calmandcool.com/216/find-happiness-9.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1436 Lucky Balaraman Sun, 04 Mar 2012 14:41:56 +0000 http://calmandcool.com/216/find-happiness-9.htm#comment-1436 Hi Kristina As mentioned in my earlier reply, I think you are not stepping back from all your thoughts, specifically 'first person' thoughts. For instance, even the question in your above comment... it came to your mind as a thought, but you did not recognize it as one, because you believed it was 'you' speaking (that's what I mean by a 'first person' thought). Step back from all such first-person thoughts and you will be calm, free from doubt and 'wise' as well! Hi Kristina

As mentioned in my earlier reply, I think you are not stepping back from all your thoughts, specifically ‘first person’ thoughts. For instance, even the question in your above comment… it came to your mind as a thought, but you did not recognize it as one, because you believed it was ‘you’ speaking (that’s what I mean by a ‘first person’ thought). Step back from all such first-person thoughts and you will be calm, free from doubt and ‘wise’ as well!

]]> By: Lucky Balaraman http://calmandcool.com/216/find-happiness-9.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1435 Lucky Balaraman Sun, 04 Mar 2012 14:30:17 +0000 http://calmandcool.com/216/find-happiness-9.htm#comment-1435 Hi Kristina, I would like to question your basic process. You say you are "doing" something. The correct procedure is be a pure witness. If you are 'doing' something, please move back and motionlessly (mentally) witness all the 'doing', i.e. all the thoughts involved in the 'doing' process. My hunch is that there are still many 'first-person' thoughts that you are not stepping back from. You are identifying with those thoughts; you think they are 'you' speaking. Realize that they too are thoughts, and that you are the one who is aware of them (just as in the case of other thoughts). Think long and deep about what I just said and try to understand it. Ask me for more guidance if you need to. Hi Kristina,

I would like to question your basic process. You say you are “doing” something. The correct procedure is be a pure witness. If you are ‘doing’ something, please move back and motionlessly (mentally) witness all the ‘doing’, i.e. all the thoughts involved in the ‘doing’ process.

My hunch is that there are still many ‘first-person’ thoughts that you are not stepping back from. You are identifying with those thoughts; you think they are ‘you’ speaking. Realize that they too are thoughts, and that you are the one who is aware of them (just as in the case of other thoughts). Think long and deep about what I just said and try to understand it. Ask me for more guidance if you need to.

]]> By: Kristina http://calmandcool.com/216/find-happiness-9.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1430 Kristina Thu, 01 Mar 2012 13:55:00 +0000 http://calmandcool.com/216/find-happiness-9.htm#comment-1430 Another thing that interests me is what exactly is meant by thoughts. There's this inner voice chatter, then there's visual imagination in the mind's eye, there's sound creation/repetition in one's mind. The one that is probably most worth addressing is the inner chatter. However, then there is a fourth one: plain emotional reactions to a situation without any thoughts. What do you do then? Imagine that you're not the emotion, and that it's only happening to your body and it will pass in a while, relax? I'd appreciate some input from someone who's been doing this for a while. Another thing that interests me is what exactly is meant by thoughts. There’s this inner voice chatter, then there’s visual imagination in the mind’s eye, there’s sound creation/repetition in one’s mind. The one that is probably most worth addressing is the inner chatter. However, then there is a fourth one: plain emotional reactions to a situation without any thoughts. What do you do then? Imagine that you’re not the emotion, and that it’s only happening to your body and it will pass in a while, relax?

I’d appreciate some input from someone who’s been doing this for a while.

]]> By: Kristina http://calmandcool.com/216/find-happiness-9.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1429 Kristina Thu, 01 Mar 2012 13:47:47 +0000 http://calmandcool.com/216/find-happiness-9.htm#comment-1429 I guess what I'm trying to ask is, would it be possible to detach from thoughts without making them disappear and instead observe them developing? But who is going to develop them? I am a little confused... I guess what I’m trying to ask is, would it be possible to detach from thoughts without making them disappear and instead observe them developing? But who is going to develop them? I am a little confused…

]]> By: Kristina http://calmandcool.com/216/find-happiness-9.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1428 Kristina Thu, 01 Mar 2012 13:44:28 +0000 http://calmandcool.com/216/find-happiness-9.htm#comment-1428 I find that whenever I drop the role of a thought-developer, become aware of the thoughts and step aside, the thought automatically disappears instantly, because there is no one to keep it alive. Then another thought pops up and I repeat the process. What keeps on happening is that I end up "killing" (sorry for such a harsh word) the thoughts with my so-called observation. I do it again and again many times a minute. I'm not sure if this is what is meant by "observing your thoughts". I'd like to hear if anyone has been in a similar place. I find that whenever I drop the role of a thought-developer, become aware of the thoughts and step aside, the thought automatically disappears instantly, because there is no one to keep it alive. Then another thought pops up and I repeat the process. What keeps on happening is that I end up “killing” (sorry for such a harsh word) the thoughts with my so-called observation. I do it again and again many times a minute. I’m not sure if this is what is meant by “observing your thoughts”. I’d like to hear if anyone has been in a similar place.

]]> By: Lucky Balaraman http://calmandcool.com/216/find-happiness-9.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1357 Lucky Balaraman Thu, 26 Jan 2012 03:16:47 +0000 http://calmandcool.com/216/find-happiness-9.htm#comment-1357 Hi Jane, In reality nothing 'comes' to you. You gradually realize your true nature. A rough analogy is like this: you are a poor vegetable seller in a kingdom. Then, by reading official birth-death records, you slowly realize that you are actually the queen of the kingdom, the queen who was kidnapped at birth. You then claim and assume your rightful throne. (Nothing came to you, you just found something out). To answer your question, yes, if you meditate for at least five minutes a day, you CAN realize that you are basically unshakably peaceful. But of course, the kind of meditation you do is important. Let me know what you're doing and I can give you further guidance. Best, Lucky ///// Hi Jane,

In reality nothing ‘comes’ to you. You gradually realize your true nature. A rough analogy is like this: you are a poor vegetable seller in a kingdom. Then, by reading official birth-death records, you slowly realize that you are actually the queen of the kingdom, the queen who was kidnapped at birth. You then claim and assume your rightful throne. (Nothing came to you, you just found something out).

To answer your question, yes, if you meditate for at least five minutes a day, you CAN realize that you are basically unshakably peaceful. But of course, the kind of meditation you do is important. Let me know what you’re doing and I can give you further guidance.

Best,

Lucky

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]]> By: Lucky Balaraman http://calmandcool.com/216/find-happiness-9.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1356 Lucky Balaraman Thu, 26 Jan 2012 03:08:44 +0000 http://calmandcool.com/216/find-happiness-9.htm#comment-1356 Gabe: Being at peace IS the state of happiness. Being at peace means you realize that you are the backdrop in front of which thoughts are active, just like the backdrop of a stage. The backdrop is always perfectly still and unaffected by what the actors are doing. In the case of a living being, the backdrop is 'an aware backdrop', i.e. it is aware of the actors acting in front of it (the actors are thoughts). Please think about this carefully and come back to me with your next question. Discovering inner peace is something that has to be done gradually (like learning tennis!). Best, Lucky Gabe:

Being at peace IS the state of happiness. Being at peace means you realize that you are the backdrop in front of which thoughts are active, just like the backdrop of a stage. The backdrop is always perfectly still and unaffected by what the actors are doing.

In the case of a living being, the backdrop is ‘an aware backdrop’, i.e. it is aware of the actors acting in front of it (the actors are thoughts).

Please think about this carefully and come back to me with your next question. Discovering inner peace is something that has to be done gradually (like learning tennis!).

Best,

Lucky

]]> By: Gabe http://calmandcool.com/216/find-happiness-9.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1355 Gabe Thu, 26 Jan 2012 02:06:32 +0000 http://calmandcool.com/216/find-happiness-9.htm#comment-1355 This all sounds good and all, and believe me, a definite step in the right direction to what I can hopefully call "enlightenment", but shouldn't being at peace make you happy? Isn't happiness what enlightenment is all about? I guess what I'm asking is: Can you do this, and still hold on to the happiness, as if it's a bird that you want to keep as a pet? Would it still work the same way? This all sounds good and all, and believe me, a definite step in the right direction to what I can hopefully call “enlightenment”, but shouldn’t being at peace make you happy? Isn’t happiness what enlightenment is all about? I guess what I’m asking is: Can you do this, and still hold on to the happiness, as if it’s a bird that you want to keep as a pet? Would it still work the same way?

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